Ks UIC/ORE standard flat wagon Roco

Original page created on 17/12/2010.

Brand - Reference

Roco 66673

Type

Ks 5.01 UIC standard flat wagon (ex JQhor)

SNCF number Revision date
JQhorv 128 484 Missing

Weight

68 g empty (NEM: 64 to 83 g)
82 g with the load of tractors.

Comments

Lateral stakes can be put into horizontal position. Wheels ⌀ 11, insufficient.

Registered in era III. According to the Loco-Revue sheet quoted below, its registration corresponds to a JQhor, not JQhorv type i.e. to a wagon without a brake wheel, as it is the case.

According to Ferrovissime Special Issue No. 5, issued in 2016, the wagon No. 128 484 is a JQhorf whose UIC number will be in the sub-series 330 2 000 to 999, built between 1955 and 1957, and equipped with brake gateway! Who to trust?

In any case, the Roco wagon would be better in JQhor, without handbrake, for example from 1961, in the sub-series 145 000 to 499 in SNCF numbering, and 01 87 331 0 000 to 324 Ks 5.01 in UIC numbering.

See Loco-Revue forum.

Modifications

  • Piko ⌀ 11.4 wheels on Roco axles; weathered floor; Fortschritt tractors glued.
  • Buffers and steps painted.
  • Chassis struts rectified.

History

Wagons put into service from 1954 to 1968. UIC registration 01 (Europ) or 21 (RIV) 87 330 0 000 to 332 4 999. Some are equipped with a screw brake on gangway, others with a brake wheel accessible from the ground.

Main characteristics (with / without gangway): tare 12.8 t / 11.9 t; C load: 21 t / 28 t; usable length 12.5 m; usable width 2.77 m. Folding sides and ends. Manufacturers: Coder, Frangeco, Decauville.

Flat wagons of the UIC type are subdivided into two sub-series of which I don’t know the precise differences of construction:

  • the UIC/ORE standard (code Ks 5.01), built from 1954 to 1963, in about 10,000 units. The wagons with brake bridge are in this series;
  • the UIC unified (code Ks 5.02), built from 1963 to 1968, in about 12,000 units.

These many wagons will become surplus in the 1970s, which will lead to many transformations: container transport, various service wagons.

Besides, there is a rather surprising coincidence: the perfect adaptation of the usable dimensions of this wagon to those of 40-foot ISO containers (12.2 × 2.4 m compared to 12.5 × 2.77 m), which will only appear 10 years later!

Documents

  • Loco-Revue sheet No. 0/3 1967-65 d 5 (former series).
  • SNCF 1972 booklet p. 27, where we can see K5 wagons loaded with boats.
  • SNCF 1973 booklet Wagons à marchandises, p. 36. Characteristics and photo (above).
  • File Plat standard UIC from Pierre Barbe’s website now closed.
  • Photos in tosh-railways.com.
  • Ferrovissime Special Issue No. 5 Wagons plats, 1st half-year 2016.

K5 flat wagon with stakes RocoK5 flat wagon with stakes Roco

K5 flat wagon with stakes

Photo SNCF.

Dimension Actual 1:87 Model
Overall length 13 860 159.3 160.5
Chassis length 12 620 145.1 145.0
Width 2 866 33.0 32.9
Side height 1 688 19.4 19.3 1
End stake height 3 245 37.3 37.7
Wheelbase 8 000 92.0 92.2
Wheel diameter 1 000 11.5 11.0 2
  1. With ⌀ 11.5 wheels.
  2. Original wheels.

Document available as a PDF.
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For conditions, see page
Loco-Revue documentary sheets. .