Original page created on 03/02/2014; updated on 14/02/2019.
Jouef HJ4004 and HJ4102-1
A5rtj DEV inox U56.
UIC number | Revision date |
51 87 84-87 016-5 5 | 11.4.73 |
51 87 84-87 013-2 2 | 13.3.75 |
HJ4004: 165 g; HJ4102-1: 170 g; 120 to 122 g after removing the ballast (NEM: 115 to 150 g).
Bogies Y20. The wheels, very bright, are 10.2 mm dia. (should be 10.6 to scale) and have 1 mm flanges. They are isolated by sleeve on the axle. The axles are 23.8 mm long.
The coach is too high by at least 0.5 mm. Beware of the bosses on the bogies, under the drawbars, which serve to limit the rotation of the bogies, and which could lean against the chassis.
No spare part provided!
What has been said above is valid for reference 4102-1 released in 2019. Here is what has changed:
The mould seems worn, some details are stuck, there are defects on the roof.
The bogies and the chassis were fitted with dynamo, brake linkage, air tank and cylinder.
No more sleeve on axles.
The interior, white, has red inserted seats.
The pivoting of the bogies is bad; it will be improved by shortening the pivots.
See:
HJ4004
HJ4102-1
These two coaches belong to the series of seven coaches numbered 51 87 84-87 011-6 to 017-3 (U56) put into service from 1957, completed with six coaches U64 51 87 84-87 (or 80) 029-5 to 035-5, the last being equipped with UIC rubber joints.
The HJ4004 model belonged to the Sud-Ouest Region in 1970 (source: Le Train, Les archives de la DEV, page 83), then to the Sud-Est Region in 1978 (source: SNCF document published by eurocity64). The HJ4102 belonged to the Nord Region in 1970. The original bogies are Y20H, often later replaced with Y24Z.
Note: the Paris-Lille “telephone” fast trains were composed of these four types of coaches. Typical composition: three or four A9j, one A5rtj (bar + telephone), one A9tj, one A6rtj (restaurant coach), one A9tj, and one Dd4s luggage van.
There is no A6rtj restaurant coach model currently available.
Photo eurocity64 on Forum-Train
Dimension | Actual | 1:87 | Model |
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Overall length | 25 094 | 288.4 | 288.0 |
Chassis length | 24 036 | 276.3 | 276.6 |
Width | 2 887 | 33.2 | 33.4 |
Height | 3 880 | 44.6 | 45,4 1 |
Pivot distance | 17 000 | 195.4 | 196.3 |
Bogie wheelbase (Y20) | 2 300 | 26.4 | 26.2 |
Wheel diameter | 920 | 10.6 | 10.3 |
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DEV “inox” coaches belonging to the Nord Region in 1970: | |||
Type | Order | UIC number | Number |
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A9j | 1956 | 51 87 19-87 005 to 016 | 12 |
A9j | 1957 | 51 87 19-87 024 and 025 | 2 |
A9tj | 1956 | 51 87 19-87 001 to 004 | 4 |
A9tj | 1963 | 51 87 19-80 064 to 069 | 6 |
A5rtj | 1956 | 51 87 84-87 011 to 014 | 4 |
A5rtj | 1964 | 51 87 84-87 033 | 1 |
A6rtj | 1956 | 51 87 84-87 301 to 304 | 4 |
A6rtj | 1963 | 51 87 84-87 308 | 1 |
Division des études des voitures of the SNCF.
“Inox” = stainless steel,
as opposed to DEV AO, ordinary steel.
About registration, the HJ4004 coach is marked A5r, but it is in fact an A5rt with central corridor. The HJ4102 is correctly marked.