Original page created on 10/07/2011.
Brand - Reference
Vitrains 3309
Type
Rs 80.1 (not 80.2) UIC/ORE type (R8) flat wagon
| UIC number | Revision date |
| 11 87 399 3 300-0 | 17.6.87 |
| Same! | Same! |
Weight
102 g (NEM: 91 to 119 g).
Comments
Huge box, in which a place for the mounted stakes is not planned. Wheels have a correct diameter of 11.5, internal spacing 14.2, between points (dull) 24.4.
The stakes are difficult to mount, and fragile (I broke several). Fortunately, there are eight more per wagon. This is not the case of towing hooks, curiously two are tenon, and two smooth almost impossible to mount.
Type 8.01 has already been reproduced by Klein Modelbahn (ref 0403
and 5121), with correct registrations. One wonders in this regard why
a provider qualified the Vitrains wagons of real novelty
. He
also did not report the registration and type error, although he is
usually so picky…
Possible registrations by changing as few numbers as possible: 31 87 390 0 300-8 and 31 87 390 0 000-4.
See the Loco-Revue Forum on the new 2008 Vitrains models, with some silliness (wheel diameter for example).
Modifications
- Wheels, brake blocks, floor and buffer heads painted.
- On one unit: one bogie and a stake repaired, two hauling hooks glued. Bogies painted.
- Load of “cast iron” pipes.
History
Contrary to what Vitrains claims, these wagons are not of the R8.02 type which, according to Pierre Barbe, dates from 1972 (Y25 bogies, stake arrangement and chassis reinforcements). See Roco wagon.
The Vitrains wagon is actually the R8.01 (ex Roryw) type of 1959, built in 400 units by the Compagnie Française de Matériel de Chemin de Fer and the Compagnie de Construction (Frangéco). Registered in sub-series 31 87 390 0 000-4 to 398-2. Equipped with so-called “German” Y19a bogies.
Documents
- Loco-Revue sheet
No. 215 / 61968 - 68 b 18 (former series) du type R 8.01. Sheet preview.
- SNCF 1973 booklet Wagons à marchandises, p. 42, characteristics.
Photo L. Viguier.
| Dimension | Actual | 1:87 | Model |
|---|---|---|---|
| Overall length | 20 000 | 229.9 | 229.0 |
| Chassis length | 18 760 | 215.6 | 215.4 |
| Width | 2 780 | 32.0 | 31.7 |
| Floor height | 1 305 | 15.0 | 15.4 |
| Pivot distance | 13 000 | 149.4 | 149.2 |
| Bogie wheelbase Y19A | 2 000 | 23.0 | 23.0 |
| Wheel diameter | 1 000 | 11.5 | 11.5 |
Document available as a PDF.
If you are interested, please let me know by e-mail,
specifying the title of the document-s.
For conditions, see page
Loco-Revue documentary sheets. .
Same registration (post-1980), and, what is more, erroneous (see history) for both: this is not serious! Wheels have a very prominent inner hub and are bright nickel-plated! A unit is seriously “banana shaped”! Spring buffers.