Original page created on 26/02/2016; updated on 02/06/2019.
REE VB-099-3 et VB-100
B5Dd2 UIC 69 type 2nd class - luggage coach in C160 livery
UIC number | Revision date |
51 87 82-70 055-4 5 | 12.4.73 |
51 87 82-70 063-8 5 | 10.5.73 |
Home base: Villeneuve |
126 g (NEM: 113 to 146 g)
Manufacturing defects, new or already noted, are added on one or other of the models in my possession:
The metallic grey colour is incompatible with that of the LS Models USI coaches (darker, less glossy). But I don’t know who is right.
The seats are beige, while they are bluish grey on the B10. But it may be consistent, since the UIC B5D are more recently built.
There are on one side of the chassis two bosses meant to ensure a 2-point suspension (the third point being the ball of the opposite side bogie), but these bosses don’t lean on the bogie! They should be thicker by an average of 0.15 mm. And, on the other hand, there is very little clearance in rolling to the ball side: the secondary suspension spring heads quickly come into stop on the chassis beams.
The gangways, very thin and in metal, don’t stand vertical. Must be glued if you don’t want to lose one!
Tail lamps are incorporated.
See:
Coaches built according to the UIC specifications (Y type), 24.5 m long, delivered in 1972-1973 by De Dietrich and CIMT Lorraine, in 118 units. UIC numbers 51 87 82-70 001-8 to 118-0 (source: eurocity64, see link below). Tare weight 41 t.
It is very likely that these coaches were released directly in C160 livery since it was applied from 1970.
Photo anonyme.
Dimension | Actual | 1:87 | Model |
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Overall length | 24 500 | 281.6 | 282.5 |
Chassis length | 23 200 | 266.7 | 266.5 |
Width | 2 880 | 33.1 | 33.4 |
Height | 4 050 | 46.6 | 46.3 1 |
Pivot distance | 17 200 | 197.7 | 197.3 |
Bogie wheelbase | 2 300 | 26.4 | 26.5 |
Wheel diameter | 920 | 10.6 | 10.6 |
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List of the UIC B5D (after eurocity64.fr) | ||||
Type | UIC No. | Num. | Bogies | Deliv. |
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UIC 69 | 51 87 82-70 001 to 068 | 68 | Y24 | 1972 |
UIC 70 | 51 87 82-70 069 to 118 | 50 | Y24 | 1973 |
See a page on this problem:
The grey
strip mistake
Same general remarks as for the B10 coach. A much lower price (from €62 to €49 and even €33!) shows that the defects found, always present, namely the roof-body junction much too apparent and the metallized grey strip rather poorly applied, too wide and especially too low, have hindered the sale of these coaches, although very finely engraved.